Yes I do...its always interesting to see what thread I have killed........
Chrystal
Yes I do...its always interesting to see what thread I have killed........
Chrystal
not feeling like there life's been affected that negatively by their involvement with jw's?.
i ask because while i do believe being raised a jehovahs witness has probably done me some considerable emotional damage, i still can't imagaine it hurt me anymore (and in a lot of cases i'm sure it did far less damage) than the average non jw upbringing.
i had no debilitating diseases, no broken family, kind and loving parents etc...you get my point though?.
Welcome!
Your post sounds like it could be written by my husband...although he and his family have had bad things happen to them because they are/were JW's. He feels mostly he did better than some of his non-jw friends growing up.
All opinions are available and welcome here.
Best Regards,
Chrystal
its not until you are out of the religion that you notice how unhappy a lot of witnesses are.
through family i still have contact with quite a few and hear of stories of whats going on.
i am like a different person now i am out.
My husband and I were talking about this yesterday. He was telling me that when he was younger, everyone was happy and had zeal. Lots of parties and get togethers.
Now everyone we know who is a Jehovahs Witness is depressed and just grumpy. Nobody is happy. And if you are happy, they don't want to be around you because they are jealous or discouraged by your unattainable happiness.
Where are Jehovahs Happy People?
Best Regards,
Chrystal
today my daughter and her class went on a field trip which was a walking tour through boston.
her class is made up of 12 and 13 year olds.
while they were on the walk - a man approached my daughter with a small pamphlet.
Lovelylil,
When we took my sons to the Big Apple Circus on Easter in Boston there were the wierd crazy born again zealots outside handing out tracts to everyone who would take them. Government Center was littered with them! These people don't really care if they hurt people or scare children, they are only interested in their " Mission."
Some of these same creepy people are the same ones who scream at the devil in Harvard Square.
I tell my sons never to take anything from a stranger or anyone without asking Mom or Dad. Nothing...no candy, books, anything. My 6 year old always asks....even if its my mom or our friends he asks - Can I have this or he'll say...I have to ask my Mom first.
And on to childhood preaching in the WTS. My MIL and SIL's tried to do it for years (I've complained about it here too many times) , they know if they want to see our children religion is a no no. I think they have given up for now. They know if they say something, I will shoot it right down with my Apostate thinking...and they don't want to hear it because what I am saying they have no answers for...LOL!
Best Regards,
Chrystal
i live in a lake area, out of town.
my neighborhood is mostly single family homes.
but there are two small rentals in the area close by - a duplex and a tri-plex.
I think a lot of renter issues are because the renters are only their temporarily and aren't invested into the neighborhood community like people that own their homes.
In our neighborhood you can tell who owns and who rents, but mainly that's because all the rentals are multi-family homes.
The renters throw parties at all hours, had the police here last weekend yet again...and don't follow the trash laws which makes litter blow all over the street.
When we were renters, we lived with this little old lady in her multi-family. As soon as I got home with our son from anywhere she would come down and talk to me...or make comments about my shopping bags. It was irritating at times, but then it was nice too because she always made us cookies or brought us extra food that she cooked. It was definately more good than bad. It was like living with my grandmother.
I will be glad when we don't live so close to everybody. The renters next door are being evicted and have nothing to lose so they are making everyone within 100 feet miserable.
I have made it a policy to put everything in writing when dealing with the landlords or city. This helps the landlords get the bad tennants out and it also helps the city fine the landlords to get the bad tennants out when they are tired of the fines.
Best Regards,
Chrystal
i went to a thrift shop at a local baptist church yesterday.
it was a pretty nice set up.
i had not been to one of these since i was a young child.
My house is an old church and it didn't stop the JW's from knocking....I wish it had.
The spanish and portugese congregation knocks every 3 weeks without fail.
So if you are thinking of buying and old falling down church...don't think it will keep the JW's away.
That Myth is BUSTED!
Maybe I should keep a sign that says Yard/Garage sale out at all times...that will keep them away! LOL!
Chrystal
how dumb and pathetic.. no extra training should be necessary for even slightly trained and disciplined soldiers.
i guess it is for some of the rabble that the us call "troops" though.. of course the real problem is not just those on the ground that have committed the latest attrocity.
it is the chain of command that tried to cover it up and all the way up to the president who sanctions bombing of civilian targets with nothing more than rumour for "intelligence".. from now on america, you are on your own.
I don't agree with this war. I did vote for George Bush, although I probably would not now...but the alternative was John Kerry or not voting at all. I didn't want John Kerry to win. I do not like him. Heck, I don't even like George Bush. But I hate him a little less than J.K. I'd rather see Laura Bush and Teresa Heinz Kerry as President and Vice President.
I am just wondering, does anyone feel sorry for the young men and women who only joined the military to get help going to college and ended up in some far away land dealing with things that they have only seen in video games and in action movies?
I have 2 family members in Iraq right now. Let me tell you, neither one thought they would ever have to go anywhere more exciting than the US or maybe Japan or Germany during their enlistment.
I don't want to be assualted with words or called a stupid American. I'm just my kids mom. I am not a rocket scientist or historian. This war makes me sad. I think of other Mom's just like me. I don't care if they are American or not. These Mom's have their children over there or have lost their child because of military action against them. Anyway you think about it, its not good.
Someone is crying. Best Regards, Chrystal Men like to think of themselves as realists, but they are wrong.
Women are the gender of reality.
They live in a concrete world of men, children and feelings
while men entertain themselves with great abstractions -
money, power, fantasies of heroism. - Philip R. Craig
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...either actually doing tech support or designing cool flyers/ads for small businesses.
I don't know if you're anywhere near Atlanta, but the company my husband works for always seems to need someone down there for computer stuff. He has to fly down and fix things that they should be able to have a local IT guy come and fix!
Chrystal
there have been 8 articles in my local paper this week about how wonderful illegal immigrants makes our town.
here is the latest and it mentions jw's.. http://sunchronicle.com/articles/2006/06/02/reports/special88.txt.
many faiths come with newcomers.
There have been 8 articles in my local paper this week about how wonderful illegal immigrants makes our town. Here is the latest and it mentions JW's.
http://sunchronicle.com/articles/2006/06/02/reports/special88.txt
Many faiths come with newcomers
BY GLORIA LaBOUNTY / SUN CHRONICLE STAFF
Pastor Saney Lee's path to Christianity was as unorthodox as a faith journey can get.
Raised a Buddhist in his native Cambodia, Lee was devoted to its tenets and prac tices until the Khmer Rouge took over his country and chal lenged his faith.
Separated from family and left without a livelihood, Lee and his wife were forced to flee to Thailand in 1979, where they lived in camps for five years.
It was there that he became acquainted with missionaries from the Christian and Mission ary Alliance denomination, who introduced him to the Gospel.
He was not an easy convert.
`` All my life I tried to be a perfect Buddhist,'' Lee said.
But the reign of the Khmer Rouge made him question why such suffering would be inflict ed on the Cambodian people, who had pleaded and prayed for peace. `` I asked, but no one gave answers,'' Lee said.
That changed when he began reading the Bible in the refugee camps and finding the answers he sought.
He became a Christian, and by the time he made his way to California, he was teaching Bible classes and Sunday school, and enrolling in a Chris tian seminary.
Then, a church official asked if he would move to Massachusetts and take over as pastor of a small Cambodian evangelical church in Attleboro that was affiliated with the Christian and Missionary Alliance.
Lee arrived here in 1990 and is still pastor today, standing as an example of an immigrant who brought his religion to this country, even though it was not the faith of his homeland.
Like other parts of New England and of the country, the Attleboro area has seen a surge in ethnic populations that have brought diversity to its faith communities.
According to a 2004 report, `` Religion and Public Life in New England,'' co-published by the Greenberg Center for the Study of Religion in Public Life at Trinity College in Hartford, Conn., the region is rapidly becoming more Asian and more Hispanic -- and more evangelical.
But unlike Lee, most Asian immigrants are Buddhists or Muslims.
Hispanics, on the other hand, are more likely to be evangelical Christians, whose ranks have gained members in recent years, or they are Roman Catholics, helping to keep Massachusetts one of the most Catholic states in the nation.
Yet other faiths are making gains as well.
According to the Trinity College report, Massachusetts has a higher percentage of Hindus than most other states, and immigration from Asian and Middle Eastern countries has fostered the growth of Islam.
Robert Mond, principal of Al-Noor Academy, a Muslim school in Mansfield, said he has seen new families move to the area who originate from Syria, Palestine, Jordan and Pakistan. Some are now second-generation or third-generation families, he said, and some have moved to Mansfield and surrounding communities because of Al-Noor.
`` There is rich diversity here,'' Mond said.
Adding to the mix are the many Hindu families who have settled in the Attleboro area in recent years, coming mostly from India.
Mahesh Patel, who has lived in the city since 1981, estimates that up to 200 Indian families of the Hindu faith now reside in the area. Many of them have held onto their customs, he said, but some are now into the second and third generations that have become `` part of the melting pot.''
Because of the influx, Patel said, Attleboro has become the center for faith-related Hindu celebrations that usually are held in public facilities and that are very social affairs.
Otherwise, Hindus may go to the temple in Fall River for feasts or on weekends, but most have a small temple in their home, where they pray every day.
Since their faith is practiced so privately, and since there is no temple in this area, Hinduism, like Buddhism, is not readily visible.
There is also no interest in conversion, and no sense that any one religion is better than another, so Hindus are unlikely to promote their beliefs, and are respectful and accepting of the beliefs of others.
Rather, Hinduism is seen more as a way of life, one that evolved from the ancient quest to understand the truth behind existence.
`` We are a very open-minded, enlightened people,'' said Balram Singh, a professor at the University of Massachusetts-Dartmouth, which has a center for India studies.
While Hindus are more likely to worship at home, Christians gravitate to churches, making their presence much more visible.
The influx of Hispanic evangelical Christians has led to the establishment of churches such like Heroes of the Faith and Church of God in Attleboro, while Catholics often turn to St. Joseph's in Attleboro, which has an active Hispanic ministry.
The Rev. Michael Carvill, pastor of St. Joseph's, said the parish has definitely seen an increase in that ministry, and an increase in attendance at the weekend Spanish Mass. At the end of that Mass, Carvill invites anyone new to stand up and be welcomed.
`` Almost every week there's someone new,'' he said. `` The Spanish community is definitely growing.''
Yet, the ethnic makeup has changed.
Twenty years ago, most people served by the ministry were Puerto Ricans, he said, but those arriving now are more likely to come from Central America, South America, Mexico and the Caribbean.
St. Joseph's is also part of the Hispanic Apostolate in the Fall River Diocese, which is now in the process of developing a diocesan-wide plan to better respond to the pastoral needs of Spanish-speaking Catholics.
At LaSalette Shrine in Attleboro, priests and brothers have been focusing on expanding programs and ministries for ethnic groups that frequent the shrine.
As of now, 10 different pilgrimages are held there for various ethnic groups, plus healing services and confessions in different languages.
Shrine booklets are also printed in Spanish, Polish, Portuguese and French, as well as English, and Masses on certain feast days are said in Spanish and English.
The Rev. John Sullivan, a LaSalette priest who served for 18 years in Bolivia and Argentina and whose specialty now is Hispanic ministry at the shrine, said he sees a strong representation of Catholics from Colombia, Guatemala, Haiti and the Dominican Republic, as well as from Mexico, Cuba and Puerto Rico.
He also sees more people from India, the Philippines and Vietnam at weekend Masses, and an attendance of about 3,000 at the annual Vietnamese and Filipino pilgrimages.
But these Catholics do not necessarily live in this area, and many come to the shrine from Brockton, Boston, Fall River and Providence.
They also bring ethnic elements into how they practice their faith, Sullivan said, and the shrine tries to incorporate them into ceremonies and services.
While knowing other languages is important, Sullivan said, ethnic ministry also requires respect for heritage.
`` It's not just speaking Spanish. It's knowing another culture,'' he said. `` Language is a big part of it, but it's more than that.''
The variety of customs makes the ministry rich, he said.
`` There is more of a sense of God's creation,'' Sullivan said. `` It is not limited to one culture, but there is also a oneness because we are all Catholic.''
While Pastor Lee of the Cambodian Christian church knows many Vietnamese who are Catholic, he said many Cambodians hold on to the Buddhist beliefs of their homeland, but may not necessarily practice those beliefs.
Christianity, on the other hand, was not popular in Cambodia, he said, and those who embraced the faith when they came to this country in the 1980s were likely sponsored by Christian churches. However, he said they did not necessarily stay close to the church once they were here.
Some do not practice any faith, he said, and a few became Jehovah's Witnesses or Mormons, two religious groups that send members out to knock on doors and convert others.
Lee's own church had only seven members when he arrived, and it gradually grew to about 80 or more, but has since declined to about half that number.
New Cambodian families are no longer moving to this area, he said, and many of them who were living here are leaving and relocating to other states because of the high cost of housing in Massachusetts, or because of the rough winter weather.
Lee is here for now, but with Christianity growing in Cambodia, he expects to one day be called to return to his homeland to serve a Christian and Missionary Alliance church there.
`` Where the Lord calls, I go,'' he said.
my husband has a sister (lori) pioneer and her hubby (mike) elder who have never had any respect for my husband or myself.
even when we were going to meetings they overstepped their parameters constantly.
demanding personal information and not honoring a simple request to not 'drop in' whenever they get a whim.
My husbands JW family members never call, just stop by. Depending on how I am feeling I will either let them in or ignore the door knocking. I think its rude to drop by unannounced.
As far as your situation, I would find out what the local housing laws are in regard to renters/sub-leasers, because that seems like the kind of situation you are in even though you will own the property one day.
I would put a letter in writing, saying you are welcome on the property but not in the house without my permission. If someone goes into the house without permission you will call the police.
Then I'd put in a scripture about following ceasars law and the statutes for breaking and entering/trespassing.
Sorry for your situation...
Chrystal